http://www.fallsbowling.org en-gb fallsbowling.org 2012-5-15T00:00:00Z fallsbowling.org http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#118250 The Addiction Clinic Hello Im Barney and Im a sex addict Thanks Barney Who else would like to say something Good Evening. Im Claire and Im addicted to drugs Thanks for volunteering Claire Nothing we cant work through Well I guess that leaves me. This is quite difficult Go on you will find we have a supportive group here Well OK Im Paul and Im addicted Im addicted.toto Lawn Bowls There Ive said it OK Paul thanks for that. Folks do you mind if we hear his story first. I think he needs more help Its an unusual addiction Not as unusual as you might think. I belong to Fruitfalls Bowling Club. It all started when I joined as a social member. I watched the bowlers out on the green running round like lost ice cream men with their white uniforms then afterwards inside with their blazers collars and ties and funny badges while I sat back in the lounge necking refreshing beverages . Parcel of Tossers I thought. Then I was given the chance. One Saturday mor... 2012-5-14 16:41:21 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#117593 Issue 4 The Which Column Apparently my previous issues have been a little fruity for some. Please accept my apologies for any offence caused. I trust this one is a little more sanitised. Which Captain of the Falls Park Team uses coloured teddy bears to mark up scores in informal roll ups with females but is reluctant to get them out when playing with men And while we are at it please note he was able to direct me to a shop and the exact shelf where they had a pink cowgirls hat not for me but my beloved you understand Which Bowling Committee member has a shady past While I freely and openly admit to having played competitive tiddlywinks as a pupil at St. Marys Grammar School and a student at Queens and indeed went on to represent Ireland in the Prince Phillip Silver Wink Competition I tell no lies another member of this club hides the fact that he was a top winker at St. Malachys School for the Better Class of Boy and still has a selection of squidgers the things yo... 2012-5-3 09:25:13 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#117166 Issue 3 Sex and Drugs and Midweek Bowls The green is now starting to get a steady trickle of players. Both itself and the environs are a credit to Peter McGarrity. Its somewhat of a misnomer to call him the green keeper given the heights to which he has risen within the Club and the International Stage but without his sterling work the place would not be the idyll that it surely is at present. Having had to do hospital duty for my beloved partner in that country to the south of our wee six counties I had to pull out of the Friendly games. Good craic by all accounts. Ladies Opening Day Congratulations on finishing the festivities with slightly more decorum than the men did. Early Season Matches No doubt the details and post match analyses will appear in the relevant sections but it is unfortunate to record that the Senior and Junior Teams suffered defeats on the opening Saturday of the season Nice to see squad trialstraining introduced for the Parks Team it would b... 2012-4-26 13:15:46 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#116303 Issue Two Love is in the Air I was not going to release this column until after the Friendlies but I received some information which was too good to keep to myself so I thought it best to share with the wider community. Having missed the first day of the new term due to an excess of recreational beverages the previous night I returned to the hallowed turf on Tuesday to throw a few but principally to get some juicy stuff for this column. My sources were quick to tell me that lurve is in the air and that two of our boys are walking around with blue birds flying round their heads and silly grins on their faces. They have pulled I hope they can hold on to them until the Presidents Dinner so they will not have to make the usual excuse Just one ticket please. My other half is in the Congo working with the poor But remember you are not getting any younger Now to the main business. The idea to have the glamour calendar in the last blog had to be abandoned so I have come up... 2012-4-11 22:57:15 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#115694 Disclaimer The Bowling Committee and especially the Hon.Secretary who may have legal responsibilites wish to make it known that all opinions anecdotes and possible slurs which may appear in this blog are solely those of the blogger. Issue 1 Under New Management I will begin the first blog of the year with congratulations to all those who made the Opening Day such an enjoyable event. In full sunlight the Mens section waddled out like the March of the Penguins and President Gerry Lee hoisted the Club flag and a spontaneous round of applause heralded the start of a new season. It was interesting to note that at one stage there were more photographers than photographees Will there be silverware this time around There most certainly will not be unless everyone adopts more of a killer instinct. Bowls is often seen as being one step above Morris dancing and Sunday driving a pleasant stroll in the park with a bite to eat at the end. We need to see ourselves as more of... 2012-4-1 12:01:38 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#109569 Remember You MUST be in to win 2012-1-3 11:52:07 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#107113 Look Whos 50 Yes the clubs own Dorian Gray is half a century next Tuesday. Have a nice one Dino. The caption competition has finally been won by grainneireland.ie. Dont know who that is Well Grainne just happens to be the judges dautgher. I know the judges decision is final but really Dan. Well the A.G.M. has come and gone without mishap. The only real change is that Stevie Stiff suceeded Bucksie and Jackie Collins and Franko Graham managed to get a nomination in before new President Gerry called for nominations closed. Not so quick next time lads. The Presidents Dinner also went well much to the relief of a certain follicaly challenged Celtic supporter who didnt hear a mention of his forthcoming nuptials. Peter magnanamously awarded the Rose Bowl for Best Player to Jim McGettrick the secound best player in the club and all the extra boxes of Kleenex from Asda were left unused when Bucksey was awarded Clubman of the Year. His Lacrine Ducts re... 2011-11-18 19:09:02 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#102944 Caption competition So what is Jim saying to Jim that is so shocking Dan Cregan will buy a pint for the best entry and his decission is final. Please leave your suggestions in the comments box below. 2011-9-21 11:28:54 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#102074 At Last We Have a WinnerThe club competitions have at last come to an end and I will take this opportunity to congratulate all the winners. This year there was a number of hold ups due to weather conditions and surprise surprise other factors. These factors need to be addressed and to assist I would like to suggest the following1st. We are the club competitions committee and we will have no other club competition committee before us.2nd. You shalt not form any splinter club competition committee or make individual decisions on the main committee behalf 3rd. Keep to the closing date and times as set by the club competition committee.4th. Follow the greekeepers instruction at all times.5th. Thou shalt not sulk at any wicks against you.6th. Thou shalt not engage the service of any sub to give unfair advantage.7th. Thou shalt not take steps to ensure favorable measurements.8th. Thou shalt not make idle chat as to give false information on line and weight.9th. Th... 2011-9-7 18:19:34 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#100806 Micheal Hits The TopAll of Brendan McCloskeys predictions on Micheal McCarney were realized last week end when he was selected to play at the top level for the club and I must say he made a good account for himself. I however was horrified to witness the treatment he received from a fellow bowler on the rink. Everyone who watched the game commented on the cruelty of this now well established senior bowler. Every week time and time again we see him lifting and polishing the usual leads bowls handing them without even a finger mark. Yet the welcome he give this virgin A team bowler was disgraceful passing the bowl towards poor Michael with his foot. A foot only God knows where has been. Shame on you I will not mention your name you know who you are. To think there are people who still think your a dead on bloke. Well done Micheal for not making an issue of a true sign of a gentleman. You bowled better than he did as wellWhen Gerry Lee told me he was having difficulty eating because he b... 2011-8-19 17:19:39 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#99070 A tale of Burgers and BowlsWell thats it for another year. One of the most successful Mixed Triples weeks in recent years is now just a memory. For those who overdid the celebrations and are now nursing the mother of all hangovers this is what happened. The competitions started on Monday. Two sessionsdue to the large entry one at 6.30 and one at 8.00. Everyone was up for it and there was a great buzz about the club. The weather was dry but a little chilly. Not to worry Gerry Lee had procurred a new state of the art gas barbeque and the heat from that alone would warm the cockles of your heart. Soon the aroma of burger and hot dog were wafting across the rink torturing all those who had rushed home from work and skipped their tea inorder to play in the first session. Speed bowling was the order of the day and a disorderly queue formed around the chef. Much hussling bustling shoving and elbowing took place as everyone tried to be first for their burger. T... 2011-7-25 13:45:26 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#97964 Gerry Learns his A. B. CsA rude awaking for Gerry Lee last week. His street cred well and truly out the window. Gerry played for the Junior team last week due to shortages. As a well established Senior bowler he was so sure he would not be confronted with such humiliation that he had his wife make him up a picnick as he hoped he would be sharing it and watching the match with the selectors hes such a prostitute. Just shows you how ruthless our selectors can be. To add insult to injury he said that he never had his bowls cleaned once during the game. The poor man has been undergoing therapy to try and get over the trauma. Anyway thanks for the sandwiches Gerry they were delicious. There has been some crackin club matches over the past weeks. Gerry McCloskeys triple was involved in one of the longest matches in history running for 3hrs 30mins. Anyway they came out on top. Marty Quinn did not get out of bed the next day as he had run the equivalent of a marathon during the match. Well p... 2011-7-8 17:15:44 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#97219 Gerry has the wrong Dress Code at his school reunion 2011-6-28 15:00:07 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#96307 Dan buys a drinkWho would want to be from that wee club from Gilford I cant quite remember their name but after their defeat at home by the Senior team the midweek team rubbed salt into the wound with a clean sweep. We may be their closest neighbors but it is a long way home.The club competitions are under way with no great upsets yet however the inclement weather on the last two Sundays has left the fixtures list running behind. Despite Grey Cloud Carson and Black Sky McVeigh doing a rain dance in the locker room I am sure everything will turn out ok in the end it always does.Meanwhile in the commune that is affectionately known as the Parkers team bonding has been taken to new lengths with the spirit of the summer of 67. The old hippies are sharing everything. Gerry is wearing Butseys jacket Sat Nav is wearing Rabs shirt tie and blazer God knows who is wearing Dannys shoesJim is wearing Liams trousers and Pat is wearing Dickeys specs. Lets hope they all have their own teeth.Finally ... 2011-6-15 12:04:19 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#95010 D.C.I. Butler Brings Back The Six.The midweek team had a disappointing result at Cliftonville recently but Detective Chief Inspector Butler scrutinized the cards and found that Cliftonville had played a ringer. After he made a few phone calls to those that mattered the team were awarded all seven points. I just cannot believe that Cliftonville would try and pull the wool over the big mans eyes. Well done Pat.You have all heard of Eddie the Eagle well let me tell you the club has their own Eddie. Yes Eddie the Onion. On a rain sodden Saturday at Mossley some of the B Team members decided rather than changing out of their greys they would put their white wetgear on over the greys because it was evident that the rain was on for the duration of the match. Eddie remarked that that was a good idea. So Eddie pulled on his whites over his grey trousers and then his white wetgear over the three layers he was already wearing meaning he had as many layers as a small onion. It worked wonders as h... 2011-5-29 16:03:19 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#93965 History Repeats Itself At FallsYes folks history repeated itself this month. It is hard to believe its a year since Sean Magorrian joined the Clive Dunn club. Well the C.D. club has got itself a new member. Big congratulations to Rodger McCall on the birth of his first grandchild. Hope all is well with mother and child Rodger.A disappointing week for the club with only the A team bowlers victorious with another great six away to Castleton. Should have been seven but for a lucky last bowl from the oppositions skip on the last end. Anyway that is the third six for the team putting them on top of the league. Three sixes in a row sort of funny that and listening to comments from an individual on Friday night regarding Paul McVeighs 21 to nil away to Ballymena is enough to send a shiver down your spine. Look at the facts three sixes 6 6 6 a whitewash away to Ballymena on Friday the 13th by a man we call sixer I let you lot draw your own conclusions. I hear Ewerts are considering opening ... 2011-5-15 15:27:54 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#93667 Is it just me or are there a couple of depressions in the green where the drainage holes were dug. If you are unfortunate enough to hit one of these depressions your bowl will go in any direction but the right one. Anyway selectors thats my excuse.Speaking of excuses the Club Competitions draws have taken place. You should see the clampets Ive been drawn with and against. If only I had gone to Club Fruithill this would never have happened. Oh well Boogie on dude.I see the Vets have managed to get 2 teams into the league. Well done Pat for your efforts. This should give the better bowlers a better chance and we should do a lot better than last year.Its good to see the numbers playing in the mornings remains high. According to sweet and gentle Butsey and he should know we get more in the mornings than most clubs get all week.Contast that with the sorry sight of Big Skip ploughing a lonely furrow up and down the rink last night and you can see that the enthusiasm of the begining of the s... 2011-5-11 10:02:36 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#93324 Well Done EveryoneA great start to the league campaigns with all teams running out winners. I was very interested in last weekends matches with both A and B teams playing Ulster Transport. The senior team had home advantage this week and made the most of it by taking six points. The friendship between the two clubs was very evident by the manner in which the game was played. One rink of interest was No 3 rinkwhen Peter McGaritty was drawn against one of our old members. Despite running out easy winners Peter must be commended for the encouragement that he give to the opposing skip during the course of the game Captain Pat took the junior team all the way across town to Jordanstown without any parental assistance at all. They started off well by taking a fantastic six. Michael Merrit skipping for the first time on the Junior team took the oppositions closest wood from the head for a five on the last end showing he hasnt lost the killer instinct that served him so well on the Senior team... 2011-5-7 10:57:08 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#91989 Well that us off to a flying start. Two friendly matches with our friends at Willowfield and Balmoral or was it Belmount I must check that one out with President P.Anyway two wins from two so as I said off to a flying start. Lets hope the lads can make it three out of three on Saturday when they play Comber. An honor indeed to be asked to play Comber on the day they open their new clubhouse. The green has been opened for two weeks now and already some individuals have played more bowls than others might throw in a season. And why not we have been blessed with super weather so far and it looks like its here for another we while yet. It is rumored that the Board are considering some of our new members pay double due to the length of time they are spending on the green. Suppose that would be OK as long as they pay the alimony when the said new members wives file for divorce. The green is playing fantastic for this time of year. All down to the hard work of 100 jobs McGarrity. Well done ... 2011-4-18 16:57:41 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#90411 Opening Day 2011At long last the 26th March was upon us and everyone was out to enjoy the day. We were blessed with warm sunshine from the offset and that only added to what was a great day at Falls.The official start time was for 2pm but some were out a lot earlier than that. A car was seen in the carpark at 10am. I have no idea who owned it but there was a local Lurgan newspaper sitting on the dashboard. No doubt the individual sourced somewhere to eat because unless he was out cutting the green with the greenkeeper he would have had little to do. I do know for a fact that a certain trio of bowlers were seen at a local eatery horsing down what can only be described as a farmyard massacre. One of the three was there on instruction of the doctor. He had lost weight over the lean winter months and he needed to build up his ballast if he is to deliver any quality bowls this year. The other two who I will call Arnold and Danny to maintain anonymity ensured that he finished off Pinky while... 2011-3-28 19:26:18 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#75905 A.G.M. Sunday 10th. October 3.00pm SHARP Presentation Dinner Friday 5th. November Sold Out Waiting List in operationIn the DitchApologies for the lateness of this edition but Trouper Thornton was swanning around the Atlantic in a big boat and more interested in the drink than In the Ditch.We begin by congratulating the Irish Under 25 team on winning the International Series for the first time. Tall Paul was our representative on the team and by all accounts had a very good series with his best performance being against Wales.Unfortunately no silverware came to Falls this season with the Seniors finishing sixth in the league. Their best result was beating Belmont in the I.B.A. Cup.The Junior team finished fourth with their best results being an away win in the league against Downpatrick and a tieend win over Dunbarton in the P.G.Cup.The MidWeek finished fifth with their highest points total for a few years.The Parkers played with their characteris... 2010-9-20 11:37:05 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#72090 Well the holiday fortnight or should I say month is well and truly behind us and the season is nearly over. We had a very successful mixed triples week culminating in an enjoyable presentation evening.Beginning with the Mixed Triples congratulations to the winners. Ann Devlin Tommy Marley and Paul Anthony and many thanks to all those who helped in any way. The amount raised for charity the Childrens Hospice was 163500a great effort. On the negative side entries would need to increase to make this a viable competition in the future.At the presentation it was great to see Joe Crawford accepting his Honorary Membership. A truly great character.The naming of the bench in honour of the McKelveys was also well received and the recognition of the labour of love by Jim McGettrick Senior and Junior teams from 1968 was also important.The games since the break brought 3 wins with only the Parkies falling to an already promoted NICS team.It should be ... 2010-8-4 12:14:34 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#70304 NEWSFLASH Father beats son at FallsCold hearted Rab Brennan thrashed his twelve year old son Daniel 116 in the 2010 Mixed Triples while the Child Protection Officer stood idly by. Its only a game of bowls quipped Rab. Is that right Well what is it like sleeping on the sofa 2010-7-13 16:30:45 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#69650 As we approach the July break its time for some reflection on the season so far. On the negative side we are out of all cups and no representation in the PG Championships. However the league situation offers a more positive outlook. The Senior team are comfortably in the top six and looking to finish with more wins.The Junior side are pushing for a top three finish. If only they could have picked up points at Ballymena and Dunbarton.Falls Midweek have gone off the rails recently but will no doubt finish strongly.The Parkers have come with a late run up the rails. Could they achieve promotionThe Marian McCullough Cup mixed triples will be played during the Twelfff week. Lets hope for good weather and good craic.The Club Competitions are ongoing. Keep an eye on the notice boards for your name if you havent already played your game before the due date.At the Mixed Triples presentation we will be inducting Joe Crawford as an Honorary Member. Very well deserved. There will also be the un... 2010-7-6 09:18:44 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#69324 Sad Day For The IrishOur Falls Rink Sean Trainor David Nixon Martin Trainor and Micheal Merritt representing Ireland in the British Isles Championship scummed 1220 to a much stronger Scottish team from Glaisnock Valley. They started from behind but clawed their way back to within one shot at the fifteenth end. Unfortunately they only picked up one shot in the remainder of the game. Our neighboring club Divis faired no better with David McGlieve going down 1021 to Matt Le Ber from Vale Recreation BC Guernsey.The Midweek team fell out of the cup and Dan Cregan was beaten in the Vets singles.Oh well as the last words were in Gone with the wind After all tomorrow is another day. 2010-7-1 16:52:49 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#68087 Entries are being taken now for the Marian McCullough Cup Mixed Triples to be played during the week 11th18th July. All entries must be submitted on or before 3rd July. Please do not enter if you are unable to commit to playing every day of the competition. 2010-6-16 11:42:16 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#67693 Unfortunately we begin this edition of In the Ditch with the sad news of the death of Micheal Drysdale. Micheal was a member for three years. He played some games for the Falls Park but due to illness over the past year his bowling opportunities were reduced. We offer our condolences to his wife and family circle.We are now two months into the season and this site goes from strength to strength due in no small part to the enthusiastic contributions in the various team pages. Keep up the good work.The weather continues to be good and the green is playing better each day.So far upwards of 80 members have represented our club in cup and league competitions continuing our commitment to promote the game of bowls Falls Constitution point 2 Thats one for the anoraks.The results since the last edition of In The Ditch have been generally positive with the Senior team having a great win over Belmont in the IBA Senior Cup and they have 21 points from 5 games in the League.The Junior Team beat Sa... 2010-6-11 13:41:05 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#65605 Breaking NewsWhat PGL Triple introduced a supersub skip and then dropped an 8 yes thats right an 8. Ill say it again an 8 against DunbartonOn with the blog after that shock. Since our last epistle we have lost one of Falls and indeed Irish Bowls Superstars Billy McKelvey. There is an obituary on this site sufficient to say he will be greatly missed. Falls would like to thank members of other bowling clubs who attended the funeral sent letters or phoned their condolences it was greatly appreciated.Saturday results are remaining very strong with 7 wins from 8 games. The Wednesday Teams have some room for improvement however it is a credit that we can field two Wednesday teams and not use one Saturday bowler.This Saturday 22 May is IBA Cup Day with the Senior Team at Mountainview and the Junior Team at home to Kilrea does M ONeill play for them. Lets hope for continued interest come 5.00 pm on Saturday.Our interest in the PGL Championships is being gradually reduced plenty of bye byes... 2010-5-18 18:31:46 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#64565 Well we are up and running at last.After a disappointing result at Transport the Senior team bounced back with a result at Salisbury a difficult green to win at . The Junior team made full use of the fixture schedule with two home wins and are currently leading the table. They host LDerry Park in the I.B.A. Cup on Saturday.The midweekers kick off this week. We are fortunate to be able to field two teams without using Saturday players. It could be argued that not using Junior players reduces our ability to win trophies but with our increased panel we are offering more people the opportunity to experience the beautiful game.The Vets begin next Monday and they also have an increased panel to choose from. Long may it continue.This Sunday we host Northern B.C from Edinburgh. This is the return leg of our trip to them last year. It will be good to renew old acquaintances and we hope they enjoy their day.It must be that time again. Jim Copeland has been spotted prowling around the club like ... 2010-5-5 09:09:57 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#63506 The Friendlies are nearly completed the first teams are selected so the action begins this Saturday. Lets hope for a strong start from both teams. There is however. a slight imbalance in the fixtures. The Senior team will not be playing at home until May11 due to two away League matches and a bye in the I.B.A. Cup. On the other hand the Junior team begin with two home League games and an I.B.A. Cup tie.The first round draws for the P.G.L. Championships have resulted in a number of first round byes which will inevitably lead to a number of second round byebyes. Lets hope for a good run in all competitions.Unfortunately the function to honor Billy McKelvey had to be postponed. This will be rearranged for later in the season. Nial had his operation and is improving by the day. Bobby Murray has a sore knee. Brian may need a new pairs partner. Finally Pat Lillis bumped his head while getting out of a car. Good job he was wearing his cap the car isnt damaged.The new shirts look great. Congr... 2010-4-21 14:40:19 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#62877 Jim Walsh throws the first bowl at the start of the new season. More photos on our gallery. 2010-4-12 22:41:15 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#62641 Due to unforeseen circumstances the event in honor of Billy McKelvey on Monday night has been postponed . A new date will be set in the very near future. So watch this space. 2010-4-9 14:26:04 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#62024 Welcome to the latest edition of In the Ditch. Another Opening Day has come and gone. The formalities went off very well as we avoided the showers and remained dry at least on the outside. The President unfurled the flag and declared the 2010 season open. His bride got a toucher with the first bowl delivered and so sets a very high standard for the incoming season. The unveiling of the memorial stone and the singles winners board were both appreciated by the large number of members present approx 100. The President ran around as if he was still secretary but his speech was well received some said shorter than expected. There were a few issues around the catering. Who didnt get potatoes and who ate 3 desserts Answers on a postcard please. There was not the usual bobbing and weaving with Private Greens entries must have been sorted out on Twitter and Facebook beforehand. Some interesting combinations though. Entries will be accepted up to 11th April and draws will be ... 2010-4-2 13:35:55 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#61851 It Works While the farmers are digging out the sheep and the boys in the Ponderosa are resisting rescue by the snow ploughs Peter basks in the sun on the green which has weathered Tuesdays storm in perfect condition. All that hard work on the drains has paid dividends. Well done . 2010-3-31 12:58:41 http://www.fallsbowling.org/page5.htm#60538 Normal 0 MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1behaviorurlieooui Style Definitions table.MsoNormalTable msostylenameTable Normal msotstylerowbandsize0 msotstylecolbandsize0 msostylenoshowyes msostyleparent msopaddingalt0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt msoparamargin0cm msoparamarginbottom.0001pt msopaginationwidoworphan fontsize10.0pt fontfamilyTimes New Roman Welcome to In The Ditch a fortnightly blog on the good the bad and the not so pretty goings on in Falls. I hope you enjoy our new website and many thanks to all for putting it together. The views expressed in this column are not necessarily the views of the Bowling Committee. I hope that members do not take offence if they get a mention but being Falls it is more likely that people will be annoyed if they are not mentioned. Not so long now to Open Day 27 March. Hopefully Peter will have everything in order especially after all the... 2010-3-15 00:51:43